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February 25, 2009


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My answer to Jeff's question is "yes."


As a Sierra Club member, I am deeply disappointed that Mr. Green chose not to renounce Jeff's extremist take on demographics. The ironic thing is that Jeff gets to say this from the comfort of having been born and, no doubt, living a very comfortable life compared to those in poor nations where populations are growing; I sometimes want to ask population extremists if they feel so strongly about the matter, why not end your own life if people are the problem? Do you resent your parents for having brought YOU into this world, Jeff? People are not the problem. Every human being on earth can fit neatly within the boundaries of the state of Texas. The problem, as Mr. Green went on to state, is overuse of resources. And it is overuse of respurces by wealthy nations whose populations are levling out (as in the US) and declining (as in Europe), not by poor nations. Population growth is happening in poor nations, not in America, where even Jeff uses hundreds of times the resources as the average poor person in a growing nation.

Kaitee in Austin, TX

I agree with Rob: our rabid consumerism and gluttony are the problem, not the simple number of us. Let's be reasonable!

Ellen Bell

I think in a conversation like this, we have to be reasonable and rational... that is, let's not take this to extremes. I don't think anyone is advocating that we all STOP having children all together. But let's face it, the days when families needed to have 8+ children (so they could help on the farm or whatever) are over. It is economically and ecologically irresponsible to have that many kids. If you like children so much, become a foster parent or adopt and share your love with deserving and underpriviledged children who desperately need it.


The Malthusian vs. Marxian contention in demographics will continue to wage as long as the main issues of resources, population and power have not been resolved. Likely, they never will.

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